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« on: November 17, 2010, 01:30:14 PM »

FIFA will announce for the first time ever not just the next, but the next 2 World Cup hosts for 2018 and 2022. The eligible candidates are:

2018: England, Spain-Portugal, Russia, Holland-Begium

2022: USA, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Qatar*

* = No real chance

SO WHICH ARE YOUR FAVORITES?  Huh

Mine are:

England 2018  Wink

USA 2022  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 09:41:57 PM »

2018

Holland-Belgium

2022

USA slight favorite/Australia
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2010, 05:08:20 PM »

Russia

US(A)
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2010, 06:55:33 PM »

I'm pretty certain it will be
2022
USA

If that falls through then Australia gets it but US looks to be the top candidate.

2018 is a toss up.  England may get it in my opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 11:34:41 PM »

2018 - Spain/Portugal (if not England, which has been tainted a little)

2022 - AUSTRALIA


FIFA's banning of the OFC rep hurts Australia as that was definitely one vote for Australia.

What could seriously happen:
2018 - Russia - has the money, would be unique, no weather worries, yet can we really forget that horrible ECL final and plastic pitches
2022 - Qatar - The allegations of vote buying would be huge but this is a massively underrated bid, much better than Japan & South Korea's bids, financially they're much better than all opponents, no worries about other sports and they have the most political clout, plus FIFA would be breaking new ground before anybody else did, need I mention Bin Hamman and his shadyness, he's rigged an AFC Presidental election before, and guess where he's from? There's a reason Qatar is hosting the 2011 Asian Cup.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 11:50:44 PM »

How I think it'll go down based on not a whole lot, apart from what I know about these men.
2018
Blatter - Russia?
Grondona - Portugal/Spain
Hayatou - Bennelux
Chung - England?
Warner - Whoever pays him the most (Russia?)
Villar - Portugal/Spain
Platini - Portugal/Spain
Thompson - England
D'Hooge - Bennelux
Tiexiera - Portugal/Spain
Bin Hammam - Russia
Erzik - Portugal/Spain?
Blazer - England
Leoz - Portugal/Spain
Makudi - Portugal/Spain
Ogura - England
Lefkaritis - Russia
Anouma - England
Beckenbauer - England
Salguero - Portugal/Spain
Rida - England
Mutko - Russia
Valke - England

Portugal/Spain 8
England 8
Russia 5
Bennelux 2

I see Warner as crucial here, with the way the procedure works, anyone who votes for Bennelux will change their vote, as there is no winner till we have a clear majority, that's why I give this to Portugal/Spain, even with the first vote tied at eight, I think it'll be Portugal/Spain that pick up more votes than England. I really don't see Platini, who is crucial here and really hard to guess, as voting for England, his policies as UEFA president are anti-England. England need to hope they make it to the two horse race against someone other than Portugal/Spain.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2010, 12:36:17 AM »

How I think it'll go down based on not a whole lot, apart from what I know about these men.
2018
Blatter - Russia?
Grondona - Portugal/Spain
Hayatou - Bennelux
Chung - England?
Warner - Whoever pays him the most (Russia?)
Villar - Portugal/Spain
Platini - Portugal/Spain
Thompson - England
D'Hooge - Bennelux
Tiexiera - Portugal/Spain
Bin Hammam - Russia
Erzik - Portugal/Spain?
Blazer - England
Leoz - Portugal/Spain
Makudi - Portugal/Spain
Ogura - England
Lefkaritis - Russia
Anouma - England
Beckenbauer - England
Salguero - Portugal/Spain
Rida - England
Mutko - Russia
Valke - England

Portugal/Spain 8
England 8
Russia 5
Bennelux 2

I see Warner as crucial here, with the way the procedure works, anyone who votes for Bennelux will change their vote, as there is no winner till we have a clear majority, that's why I give this to Portugal/Spain, even with the first vote tied at eight, I think it'll be Portugal/Spain that pick up more votes than England. I really don't see Platini, who is crucial here and really hard to guess, as voting for England, his policies as UEFA president are anti-England. England need to hope they make it to the two horse race against someone other than Portugal/Spain.

Jack Warner is the type of moron who will sell you his vote for a Coke and a hot dog. The starving bas####   Cry

He will even trade his wife for money. I really hate that A-H  Angry
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2010, 11:56:45 AM »

Grondona voting for Portugal/Spain is a given,
for several years I've been thinking that there's something weird going on between Argentina and Spain when it comes to the transfer of soccer players.

In few words, anytime a kid from Argentina scores 3 goals, he's sold for $20 million dollars to a team in Spain.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2010, 12:03:57 PM »

I believe that the live coverage of the "FIFA World Cups 2018 and 2022" awards ceremony will be televised live from Zurich on Thursday morning, December 2nd on cable channel ESPN-2.   Grin

Expect to see your favorite friend, Joseph Blatter, as your guide to the event.  Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2010, 12:16:10 PM »

Grondona voting for Portugal/Spain is a given,
for several years I've been thinking that there's something weird going on between Argentina and Spain when it comes to the transfer of soccer players.

In few words, anytime a kid from Argentina scores 3 goals, he's sold for $20 million dollars to a team in Spain.

I can be 100% safe to say at least 10-20 of those "pampered" Archies playing in La Liga, would not even make it thru their first year in the Mexican League.  Embarrassed

The fact is that by now, the Archies have penetrated every single level of the personnel of almost all Spanish league clubs. Jorge Valdano (1986 World Champion), for example, has been for some time one of Real Madrid's big decision-makers.

Want to guess where that "favoritism" and "protectionism" is coming from?  Huh
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2010, 04:57:33 PM »

Back to the topic.

Do not expect logic to impose in this type of decisions by the big guys at FIFA. Last-minute decision changes have been the rule. Here's a quote on the topic from a sports analyst, which I found on the internet:

"For all the talk about the inspection reports, it's tough to judge just how influential they are. Theoretically, they should be massively important because how competently a country can host the world's biggest sporting event should be of the utmost importance, but in reality, there are other things in play. Obviously, politics plays a part in all of this and who owes whom a favor, but that's common in all business. Some may say FIFA is corrupt and some say they're practical, but the fact is that there is more at play than technical competency. Goodwill and the growth of the sport play a role, as does the ability to make significant change somewhere. How many of the 22 executive committee members set to vote on the right to host will even read all of the reports and how many will just skim them or toss them out? It's impossible to say, but with under two weeks to go until the votes, the inspection report has thrown another variable into the pot."
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 09:59:22 AM »

SPAIN/PORTUGAL & U.S.A. (with San Antonio, Texas as one of the sites).
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 11:13:58 AM »

SPAIN/PORTUGAL & U.S.A. (with San Antonio, Texas as one of the sites).


Nice.  We will play the games at our new STAR stadium. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 11:43:15 AM »

SPAIN/PORTUGAL & U.S.A. (with San Antonio, Texas as one of the sites).


Nice.  We will play the games at our new STAR stadium. 

Unfortunately, San Antonio was taken off the bid list over a year ago.  Only possible Texas locations remaining on the venue list are Dallas (The Death Star) and Houstank (Reliant).

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 12:20:18 PM »

SPAIN/PORTUGAL & U.S.A. (with San Antonio, Texas as one of the sites).


Nice.  We will play the games at our new STAR stadium. 

Unfortunately, San Antonio was taken off the bid list over a year ago.  Only possible Texas locations remaining on the venue list are Dallas (The Death Star) and Houstank (Reliant).



Huge chance of Texas hosting at the very least semi-finals if they win, too bad they won't. Trip to the Central Coast in 2022 anyone?
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